I bought this Meilink safe at auction. Sadly, the safe is locked andthe combination is not available.(Fortunately, at the same auction I bought a very nice Mosler safewith a secret lockable compartment that is open).Before I scrap this Meilink safe, I want to crack it open to see ifperhaps there is gold or diamonds or some such inside. I have aacetylene torch, forklifts, etc.I am not interested in spending big money on locksmiths, safe crackersetc and I do not care to preserve the mechanism. This is a light dutysafe and it weighs under 300 lbs.Any quick ideas of what I can do with it without wasting too muchtime. Torch it from the bottom?iStormin Mormon20.03.14 8:06. In rec.crafts.metalworking Stormin Mormon wrote: On 3/20/2014 12:15 PM, Cydrome Leader wrote: Any quick ideas of what I can do with it without wasting too much time. Torch it from the bottom?
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too bad it's not cold out anymore. You could fill it with water and let it freeze. Just truck freight it to some place cold?We had the perfect winter here in Chicago for fun activities like that.Could have just left it outside with a tarp over it for a couple days.Peter Fairbrother20.03.14 10:48. Richard Feynmann, in his memoirs, has a very amusing chapter about safe-cracking (he was the unofficial safe-cracker for the Manhattan Project atLos Alamos, which he started mostly by playing jokes on his buddies).The VERY FIRST thing you do is call the manufacturer and ask them if theyhave a default combination when they ship the safe. Most safes withcombinations that can be changed ship with the factory combination, andmany people (particularly if it's a fire safe) don't bother with changingit.Try it.
If it works, I'm a freaking genius. If it doesn't - well, thenI'm no worse off than I am now, right?-Tim WescottWescott Design ServicesJon Elson20.03.14 11:51. In rec.crafts.metalworking, Tim Wescott wrote: On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 09:42:26 -0500, Ignoramus10422 wrote: I bought this Meilink safe at auction. Sadly, the safe is locked and the combination is not available. The VERY FIRST thing you do is call the manufacturer and ask them if they have a default combination when they ship the safe. Most safes with combinations that can be changed ship with the factory combination, and many people (particularly if it's a fire safe) don't bother with changing it.After that, hire a safecracker off craigslist:Excerpt:Wyatt, 51, is a man with time on his hands. He defines himself as amarginally employed computer repairman, a tinkerer in all thingsmechanical and an unrepentant coffee-shop slacker.
He learnedeverything he knows about safecracking from a 34-page PDF document hefound while doing a Google search on 'safecracking for the computerscientist.' .Rodgers recently bought a mid-century home in the Upper Castroneighborhood, which came complete with a 1-ton antique safe thatprevented him from parking his car in the garage. He was offering 25percent of the unknown contents to any person who could open thesafe. The only catch was that the safecracker had to haul away thecracked safe when the job was done.At 10:22 a.m., Wyatt cried out, 'I got it!'
Rodgers came running overjust as the several-hundred-pound door fell off the safe - acontractor had removed the hinges in a previously failed attempt toget in.Wyatt's reward was indeed 25 percent of the air in the safe. Apartfrom that, nothing was inside.Still, Wyatt had a giant grin on his face as he held the innerworkings of a lock like a shiny piece of gold. His curiosity had beenquenched.Elijah-no word how Wyatt, on his bicycle, was getting the safe out of thereLeon Fisk20.03.14 11:58. On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 09:42:26 -0500Ignoramus10422 wrote:I bought this Meilink safe at auction.
Sadly, the safe is locked andthe combination is not available.Any quick ideas of what I can do with it without wasting too muchtime. Torch it from the bottom?First off I would try forcing a large, 6 ft or so pry bar in betweenthe door and side. Maybe use a small sledge and some cold chisels alongthe same edge to gain some room for the big pry. It really depends onhow many bolts are in the door, how long they are, how well anchored.But I think a big pry bar will bend/spring the side away for you to gainentry:)-Leon FiskGrand Rapids MI/Zone 5bRemove no.spam for emailDavid Billington20.03.14 13:30.
On 20/03/14 14:42, Ignoramus10422 wrote:I guy I know used to work in a quarry and they had been using an oldsafe that was around as an anvil for years. At some point it eventuallygot opened and it was found to be full of sweating dynamite, seems itwas the safe for storing it in safely and that had been forgotten. Thebomb squad got called and the stuff was safely disposed of and all thathad used it thought what if it had gone up, of course if it had theywouldn't have known about it.David Billington20.03.14 13:36.
On 20/03/14 20:36, David Billington wrote: Peter, I remember an old OU IIRC film and it showed the burning of diamond but they said the activation energy was so high the diamond needed to be heated white hot with the likes of an OA torch and then placed in liquid oxygen where it did burn. I know you're a chemist so maybe you know if there's more to it.Short version:Carbon in any form will burn in air at above 800C or so, which is withinnormal flame temperatures.Above about 650C diamond actually burns at a slightly lower activationenergy than graphite or amorphous carbon, though the difference is verysmall and temperature-dependent.However diamond and graphite present nearly atomically-smooth surfacesto the air, and amorphous carbon doesn't. In the middle of these smoothsurfaces the activation energy is quite a bit higher, and thetemperature has to be above about 800C - while at the edges, and for thelarger surface areas of amorphous carbons, the required temperatures arelower, perhaps 450-500C.And of course the hotter it is, the faster it burns. LOX is cold, and itwill cool the carbon as well as reacting with it, so it helps to havethe diamond red-hot when it enters the LOX. Not so important with alarge diamond, but people don't burn large diamonds in LOX very often.Also diamond conducts heat better than anything else (except graphene) -and by quite a lot, it has about 5 times the thermal conductivity of thenext contender, pure silver - so burning small lumps of it in LOX is abit atypical.- Peter FCydrome Leader20.03.14 14:11. Any quick ideas of what I can do with it without wasting too much time.
Torch it from the bottom?If it's a 'fire safe', and not a security safe, it's easy as heck to getinto. Just peel off the sheet metal, crush the gypsum insulation, andcut with anything you like to get the box inside open.There's nothing 'secure' about a fire safe, because they aren't designedfor that.Even if it's a security safe, unless it's a high-end one, the door boltscan be cut pretty easily.
It's unusual to find heat-sinking bolts in aninexpensive safe. (and even then, oxy-acetylene can cut the copperinserts, with some time and gas)The whole idea of a 'hardened' safe is to make it take too long for acrook to feel comfortable staying on the job. Someone who has time andno fear of cops or discovery can get into almost any safe with commontools.LloydPeter Fairbrother20.03.14 16:12.
On 3/20/2014 4:30 PM, David Billington wrote: I guy I know used to work in a quarry and they had been using an old safe that was around as an anvil for years. At some point it eventually got opened and it was found to be full of sweating dynamite, seems it was the safe for storing it in safely and that had been forgotten. The bomb squad got called and the stuff was safely disposed of and all that had used it thought what if it had gone up, of course if it had they wouldn't have known about it.I've heard that dynamite put into a camp fireburns gently without exploding.Ignoramus1042220.03.14 17:57.
Have you tried the 'storage' combination? Assuming that thedial is a 0-100 dial, try 25, 50, 25, 0, starting to the left with overthree full turns and stopping on 25. Then right two full turns pluswhat it needs to reach 50, then left one full turn plus what is neededto reach 25, and finally right to 0. Then, depending on the lock,either turn a tumbler bar in the center of the knob if present and keepgoing as far as it will go (perhaps another 1/8 turn or so), or justkeep going to the right and see whether it unlocks. If it doesn't workyou're out a few minutes of fiddling with the dials.If what is in it is paper, torching it from any surface willlikely burn the paper. But the bottom might be the easiest path in.Or - put it just outside the door, and let it be known that ithas gold in it - and wait for someone else to open it before youpounce.:-)Good Luck,DoN.-Remove oil spill source from e-mailEmail: (KV4PH) Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564(too) near Washington D.C. Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero -Jay Hennigan20.03.14 20:47.
On 3/20/14 7:42 AM, Ignoramus10422 wrote: I bought this Meilink safe at auction. Sadly, the safe is locked and the combination is not available.
Before I scrap this Meilink safe, I want to crack it open to see if perhaps there is gold or diamonds or some such inside. I have a acetylene torch, forklifts, etc.A Skilsaw with a cutoff wheel along the left edge of the door about aninch in from the seam should do the trick. You want to cut the bolts,likely two of them equally spaced. Wear goggles!Jon Elson20.03.14 21:17. On 3/20/2014 10:42 AM, Ignoramus10422 wrote: I bought this Meilink safe at auction.
Sadly, the safe is locked and the combination is not available. (Fortunately, at the same auction I bought a very nice Mosler safe with a secret lockable compartment that is open). Before I scrap this Meilink safe, I want to crack it open to see if perhaps there is gold or diamonds or some such inside. I have a acetylene torch, forklifts, etc. I am not interested in spending big money on locksmiths, safe crackers etc and I do not care to preserve the mechanism. This is a light duty safe and it weighs under 300 lbs. Any quick ideas of what I can do with it without wasting too much time.
Torch it from the bottom? iDrill one hole, fill with water then insert a small explosive charge.Ignoramus2359821.03.14 14:38.
In article,Ignoramus10422 wrote: On 2014-03-20, David Billington wrote: On 20/03/14 14:42, Ignoramus10422 wrote: I bought this Meilink safe at auction. Sadly, the safe is locked and the combination is not available. (Fortunately, at the same auction I bought a very nice Mosler safe with a secret lockable compartment that is open). Before I scrap this Meilink safe, I want to crack it open to see if perhaps there is gold or diamonds or some such inside.
I have a acetylene torch, forklifts, etc. I am not interested in spending big money on locksmiths, safe crackers etc and I do not care to preserve the mechanism. This is a light duty safe and it weighs under 300 lbs. Any quick ideas of what I can do with it without wasting too much time. Torch it from the bottom? i I guy I know used to work in a quarry and they had been using an old safe that was around as an anvil for years. At some point it eventually got opened and it was found to be full of sweating dynamite, seems it was the safe for storing it in safely and that had been forgotten.
On 2014-03-22, wrote: On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 17:54:44 -0500, Jon Elson wrote:Ignoramus23598 wrote: Well, I got it opened. Details and photos here:Well, that's spectacularly boring!
Or, did you lift out the 3 Kg ofgold bars before you took the picture?Jon He doesn't know it but the safe was probably full of Dark Matter. Most likely WIMPs, AKA Weakly Interacting Massive Particles. If he tips the safe over the WIMPs will flow out and through the floor. Then he can weigh the safe and tell us how much Dark Matter was in there. EricWant to buy that dark matter? It is very valuable dark matter, agedwell inside that safe.iDoN. Nichols21.03.14 19:06.
On 2014-03-21, Ignoramus23598 wrote: Well, I got it opened. Details and photos here:A pity that there was nothing in it. I would not have expectedvaluables, but perhaps something interesting to read at least.:-)Did you make any attempt to recover the lock? I would have.Once you have one apart, you can reset the combination to somethingknown.
But working through that hole you made would not be fun,especially if you don't already know how the locks are installed andassembled.Enjoy,DoN.-Remove oil spill source from e-mailEmail: (KV4PH) Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564(too) near Washington D.C. Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero -Lloyd E.
Sponenburgh21.03.14 19:15. On Thursday, March 20, 2014 at 7:42:26 AM UTC-7, Ignoramus10422 wrote: I bought this Meilink safe at auction. Sadly, the safe is locked and the combination is not available. (Fortunately, at the same auction I bought a very nice Mosler safe with a secret lockable compartment that is open).
Before I scrap this Meilink safe, I want to crack it open to see if perhaps there is gold or diamonds or some such inside. I have a acetylene torch, forklifts, etc. I am not interested in spending big money on locksmiths, safe crackers etc and I do not care to preserve the mechanism. This is a light duty safe and it weighs under 300 lbs. Any quick ideas of what I can do with it without wasting too much time. Torch it from the bottom?
iThe safe is a Meilink 9030. Definitely any assistance will be most appreciated. That's about all I can tell you.